posted by "Jolene"
In the 2004 presidential campaign, I worked hard for Howard Dean, because he was one of the few candidates speaking out against Bush's invasion of Iraq. When Dean's candidacy died and John Kerry became the Democratic Party's nominee, I was sad but I made the switchover and worked for Kerry.
Not this time.
This time things are different.
In fact, I've never seen anything like this campaign in terms of rigging things so one candidate (Hillary Clinton) would lose and one candidate (Barack Obama) would win.
It was bad enough when the media people were allowed to maul Hillary, but when even supposedly fellow Democrats -- who KNEW better -- started calling Hillary and Bill Clinton "racists" for making perfectly sensible, historical, non-racist observations, I began to suspect the "fix" was in.
When the media AND the Obama gang made insulting and abusive remarks not only to Hillary but to anyone who supported her, I began to suspect the "fix" was in.
When the leaders of the Democratic Party were SILENT in the face of the almost daily degrading insults hurled at Hillary, I began to suspect the "fix" was in.
When, on the day after Obama decided he had won the nomination (even though Obama STILL does NOT have sufficient pledged delegates to give him the nomination and still needs the UNpledged votes of the super-delegates to win the nomination), the DNC and Obama camp announced that the DNC was moving to Chicago and would be MERGED with the Obama camp, I KNEW the "fix" was in.
The Democratic Party represents the interests of more candidates than just the presidential candidate; it is SUPPOSED to represent the best interests of ALL the other down-ticket Democratic candidates as well.
But, if the Democratic Party and Democratic Party MONEY are now under the control of Obama, those Democratic candidates who did not endorse Obama OR endorsed Obama too late to satisfy Barack Obama, will receive NO money and NO help from the Democratic Party and will be left (by Obama) to "twist in the wind."
If Obama becomes president, he will deal with his "enemies (all Hillary supporters are his "enemies") in ways that will resemble the Soviet way of dealing with "those who are not loyal to The Supreme Leader."
Barack Obama is George W. Bush and Richard Nixon rolled into won, on steroids.
~ ~ ~
Winston Churchill said: "Never give in -- never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. "
That works for me.
~ ~ ~
Here are some links to columns you might want to read:
"The Bolshevikization of the Democratic Party" at: http://tinyurl.com/3tt84j
"Such a centralization of the Party's apparatus is an inherent danger to the big tent character of the Democratic Party. Obama is seeking to personify the Democratic Party. No one person personifies the Democratic Party. This is an internal coup following on the heels of the May 31st Rules and By-Laws Committee that was anything but democratic"
"Obama moves DNC operations to Chicago" at: http://tinyurl.com/4fzs6d
Obama's "swift and complete takeover of a Democratic Party"
"The UnDemocratic Party: The New Culture War pt 2" at: http://tinyurl.com/3pccv9
"Millions of people believe that the Democratic primary was fixed, which is a major reason why former Clinton supporters will never vote for Barack Obama."
Source: HillaryClintonForum
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Tuesday, June 24, 2008
Hillary Clinton supporters were swiftboated
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8 comments:
Stop doing drugs, they've scrambled your brain.
Hillary started with a known name, a believed entitlement, a media that supported that entitlement, the most money any campaign has ever started with as people donated, not 2,300, but 4,600 due to her 'Entitlement' for the General Campaign.
Now she's 22.5 million in debt (making everyone wonder what our economy would be like under her), and fallen from the easiest win any candidate could have.
I appreciate you thinking the media had some involvement in that, but try counting (use your toes if you need). Count the number of times Hillary got bad press, then how many times the media declared Hillary getting bad press (which is Good Press) just because she claimed so. Throughout the entire Campaign, Hillary got the best Media of all the candidates, at times simply because she called it Bad Media and got into the spotlight.
Despite her use of negative politics:
"He's not a Muslim, I don't think..."
"Hard working middle class white Americans"
Despite her use of Sexism:
"If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!"
"I'm your Girl!"
Despite her mean-spirited comments:
"The skies will open...."
"He brings a speech made back in 2002"
Despite her trying to use Rezko, when she has "Ho" and so many other 'Scandals' in her closet....
Obama maintained class and dignity, never once used the negative politics back, never once dropped to her level. Sure, some of his blogosphere supporters did, but never Obama.
It was Limbaugh (Republican) and Walker (Republican) that made all the sexist comments, not Obama. The DNC can not do anything about Republican politics (or this campaign would be a ton easier).
Feel free not to vote for Obama. It's not like he's going to lose. But maybe do some introspect on the whys. Instead of just believing all the NObama media out there, take a moment to actually look. Then compare history between Obama and McCain.
Obama has been a State Legislature longer than any presidential candidate since Abraham Lincoln (that's a fact, look it up). That means he's had more experience in a less partisan environment, and has worked more closely with Republicans than most candidates ever will due to inexperience at the state level. He's used positive politics, has never once called anyone names, or pointed out their flaws. And you want to not vote for him, not because he shares the same opinions on views that Clinton shares, but because you feel that someone totally else derailed the entitlement you also apparently felt Clinton deserved.
This is why Churchill once said, "The best defense against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter." Voters tend to act like 5 year olds with a temper tantrum when they don't get their way.
Ah, yes.
>>Stop doing drugs, they've scrambled your brain.<<
Typical Obamabot opening remark.
And reading the rest of what sphynx posted shows the effect of too much Obamatized Kool-aid on one's brain.
Was anything I posted (aside from the Drugs) not fact? Nope.
You can call it Obama KoolAid if it makes you feel better about your selection for candidacy, but the facts don't agree with you. Feel free to post Facts that show anything said in the blog was... factual.
You're suffering from bruised ego, not from logic. And FYI, "Swiftboated" means the use of slanderous lies to spread distrust over a candidate. You'll not find any lies about Hillary from the Obama campaign. Please, prove me wrong. Call if swiftboating if you want, but it was anything but. It was instead, an underdog who showed Americans what they could achieve, who fought against her better starting money, better starting media, better everything, while suffering from being known as "Osama Hussein the Black Muslim Terrorist", and despite all those odds, won because 51% of the people saw past all the slander and name-calling and voted for the better candidate. That's the very epitome of a Democracy.
sphynx,
You are wrong about a couple of things.
First, I am not suffering from a "bruised ego." I am not a Clinton loyalist. Yes, I supported Hillary, but I would have supported Mickey Mouse if he ran against Marxist Obama.
Second, you said in your original comment that Obama maintained class and dignity, that he never once used negative politics. I beg to differ.
Senator Obama was the one who introduced the race card into the campaign; he used it early and often. I, for one, do not consider it classy or dignified to have set back race relations in this country a good 30 or 40 years.
You are free to vote for the Marxist if that's what you want to do. But we are going to fight you and Obama; we are going to expose the truth about him every step of the way.
For me, this isn't about Hillary, and it's not about John McCain. It's about the United States of America.
Obama is wrong for our country.
I've been watching Obama since the week he declared he was running for President, and don't recall him using the Race Card at all in the beginning other than to say, when asked if Clinton was the first "Black President" that he'd "have to see him dance", which was only questionably use of race. I'd like to have a reference point that shows him using the Race Card prior to it being used against him by the Clinton, if you have the time.
As for Marxism, Marxism is about half a step away from Slavery. Using a lower-class to perform labor at less than the value of that labor in order to have greater capital.
If you honestly believe the web-rumors that he practices Marxism, you should check out the legislation he pushed in Illinois. Or, at least point to actual legislation that fits the profile of Marxism. I find it hard to believe that someone raised lower-class in a 1-parent family from a 'race' that endured Slavery, would be Marxist in nature. Feel free to prove your point. That would be the first step "to expose the truth about him every step of the way."
sphynx,
Obama played the race card when he implied that Bill Clinton's "fairy tale" comment was racist. Obama played the race card when he implied that Hillary was being racist to point out that it took a President to pass civil rights legislation (duh...that's how it works).
For all of the talk that Obama is a post-racial candidate, he can't seem to stop focusing on race. He will turn every criticism of his policies into "racism", even though 99.9% of the time the criticism is fully justified and has nothing to do with his race!
You're right when you say that Marxism is just a half step away from slavery. I know what it is, but nothing you've told me comforts me where Obama is concerned. He avoided taking a stand on many issues in the Illinois legislature by voting "present" as opposed to voting "aye" or "nay".
You could take any one thing about Barack Obama and say that one certain thing is meaningless and is nothing to worry about. But there are too many of those things; and when I put them all together: his mysterious background, his questionable associates, his Marxist connections, it adds up to a huge negative for me.
If Obama is elected, and if we're better off 4 or 8 years from now, I'll be happy to admit I'm wrong. I just don't think I am.
Ok, I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here. I've been searching the web for hours trying to find this "race card" that Obama used against the "Fairy Tale" comment. I find nothing. This is the reply I find to it, from Obama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQekZ1ahvlo&feature=related
As for the "It takes a President" for Civil Rights Legislation, in an attempt to give L.B. Johnson for the works of M.L King, I don't find a reply from Obama anywhere, just lots of Bloggers who were appalled that anyone would dis-credit ML King. Could just be that it's lost in the google spam. If you have a direct quote from him, I'd like to at least see it. But even then, in the middle of an election with a Black Man running, discrediting ML King would definitely be considered a pulling of the "Race Card" first.
As a matter of fact, I don't see him ever commenting on Race by Obama other than his speech focusing on the subject due to the Wright issues. I'm curious why you think 99.9% of his criticism will become a race-card for him. That isn't the Obama I see when I watch him in public.
Give some proof to these Race Cards because the only sites I come across that suggest he ever played a Race Card are the same sites that suggest his half-brother called him Muslim, say that he was raised in a Muslim School, and all the other 50 lies that have been debunked by snopes.com.
Marxism, non-issue. The people who started that rumor, started the rumor that Michelle Obama was caught on tape calling someone "Whitey". The rumor states that his 'mother' was Marxist, and so Obama must be also. No evidence has yet surfaced to give backing to that claim. Rack it up to a 527 lie.
So, that leaves his "mysterious background" which is pretty open to the public, 8 years as a State Legislature where partisan is so low that it explains his ability to work with both Republicans and Democrats, 2 years in the Senate where you can go to thomas.loc.gov and see what legislation he has created and/or supported. His "mysterious past" is only as mysterious as you let it be.
So that leaves Rezko and Wright. You've a right to hold a person's friends against him, I can't. I consider that to be prejudice, and believe you should judge a man on his own merits, on his own actions. As an ex-cop, half my friends spent alot of time behind bars. They're all 'good' people, and I have to shake my head in disbelief when they do something stupid and get busted for it, but they're not me.
So the only thing you have against Obama really is his friends. Everything else seems to be made-up by 527 style media and spoon fed to anyone that is looking for a reason to distrust Obama. I guess the question is, why you look for reasons to distrust Obama. After all, the smallest amounts of research show that those aren't the facts.
sphynx,
It doesn't matter to me whether Senator Obama played the race card himself or whether it was played on his behalf by his campaign and/or surrogates. The point is that it was played, and it came from his camp. And this method of distortion will continue anytime anyone has any kind of criticism about him. If he wins, it will be a very long 4 years that will set back race relations even further than he has set them back in this campaign so far.
I'm not surprised at all that you don't see these things; I didn't really expect that you would...that's a fairly normal reaction coming from those who imbibe of the Obama Kool-aid. I don't mean that as an insult to you personally, but it's something that those of us who are not under Obama's spell notice about those who are.
As I said in a previous post, maybe Obama will win and I will be proven wrong. If so, no one will be happier than me that my worst nightmare did not come to pass.
We could go at this all day and neither one of us will convince the other. We can only agree to disagree.
You may have the last word if you wish, but I'm going to move on to other topics.
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